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The words of Adrian Rogers

Letter to the Editor

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Editor, Index-Tribune:

Adrian Rogers, an American pastor (1931-2005), wrote:

“You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

“What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

“The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

“You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

“When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.”

Roger Jack Young

Temelec

  • Chris Scott

    … speechless

  • Fred Allebach

    Nice justification for an every dog for himself philosophy. Apropos of the article about helping veterans, forget that, that would be a ‘taking’.

  • Phineas Worthington

    “The state is that great fiction by which everyone tries to live at the expense of everyone else,”- Frederic Bastiat

    • Chris Scott

      … speechless

      • Phineas Worthington

        why?

        • Chris Scott

          The opportunity cost of following Bastiat’s dictum is too great to be sustainable. His views and economic philosophy derives from the Napoleonic Wars era and post war French increasingly socialist economy which fundamentally persists to this day in France. For all its faults “plunder,” to use Bastiat’s highly pejorative description, does improve the economic conditions of our very complex modern society of which Bastiat had no knowledge, could not imagine nor anticipate. For all its noble purposes and claims post French Revolution France reverted to a class society. Bastiat was a member of the upper class by economic condition and had the luxury of his views.

          Bastiat’s economic views remain applicable to France today, are only marginally applicable to the US economy.

          Possibly more importantly for my differences with Bastiat, he believed in Negative Railroads whereas I believe railroad’s services were a positive development for our economy and society.

          A foreign idea, very, it’s French.

          • Phineas Worthington

            Maybe you just agree in principle with the ideas of socialism. Maybe you do not value freedom, nor the founding principles, nor proper law. Your words often indicate this is so.

            The issue of railroads, how they are funded, and where they will be built was one of the main contributing economic conflict factors that led to our own civil war so Bastiat was quite prescient in his views on this, slavery, tariffs, and many other matters.

          • Chris Scott

            Not sure what one of the myriad of caused to the civil war has to do with the price of pot in Colorado. Although I did go to university there.

            As for the ism’s and code words for the sake of pummeling me are really wasted on me. I’m an existentialist, notwithstanding its flaws – if that helps. Any indications my words might have is purely coincidental.
            .

          • Phineas Worthington

            This response makes no sense to me.

          • Phineas Worthington

            existentialism: a philosophical theory or approach that emphasizes the existence of the individual person as a free and responsible agent determining their own development through acts of the will.

            As Milton Friedman would say, “You’re not even on your own side,” Chris.

  • Fred Allebach

    The fundamental divide here seems to be between competition and cooperation, which is disputed as well in evolutionary theory. In reality, our life has both and for us to carry on as if one would exclusive of the other, is just stupid.

    Social animals are those animals which interact highly with other animals, usually of their own species (conspecifics),
    to the point of having a recognizable and distinct society. Many
    animals are social to the extent that mothers and offspring bond, and
    males and females interact to mate, but the term “social animal” is
    usually only applied when there is a level of social organization that
    goes beyond this, with permanent groups of adults living together, and
    relationships between individuals that endure from one encounter to
    another.[1] Wikipeoda

  • Tom Sokolowski

    What warm and fuzzy sentiments Roger; thanks for ushering in a genuine Conservative Holiday Season!

    By the way, did you know that the Bible contains literally hundreds of verses on helping the poor and creating social justice? You should try reading it sometime.

    Jesus was born poor, lived poor, commanded us to help the poor, and showed us how to do it: “Go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven.” – Jesus Christ.

    For my part, I prefer the kindhearted ideas of Jesus to the Ebenezer Scrooge ideas of Adrian Rogers.

    Happy Holidays Roger!

    • Phineas Worthington

      The Bible also gives lessons on learning to be self-sufficient, living within your means, and the respect of individual property, freedom, and life, some things you seem wont to ignore too often.

      • Tom Sokolowski

        I’m sure it does Phineas, but the larger lesson of the Bible is to help those less fortunate than ourselves. In fact there are about 300 passages in the Bible telling us to do that. Pastor Adrian seems most concerned with protecting rich people’s money, while Jesus (God) is most concerned with helping the poor; a point you seem wont to ignore.

        • Phineas Worthington

          A wealth transfer by law is not charity, its just a legal wealth transfer.

  • Fred Allebach

    It fits my preferences well that the new Pope has come down critical of trickle down economic policy; that this is seen as “structural sin”, the widespread exploitation of the little guy. But this doesn’t mean that gumption and initiative are proposed to be legislated and controlled by the State. All us liberals are really asking for is the same justice as we were told in kindergarten, share. When Johnny takes all the marbles, what’s left for the rest of the kids? It seems sometimes that other guys advocate bullies.

    William Blake: “…both read the Bible day and night, while thou readest black and I readest white”